Well things have been quiet over here at the Bullpen Boys lately. That blame rests squarely on the shoulders of ol' DP. I've recently moved back to KC from Chicago and have been dealing with getting my life organized back home (I'm probably at about 8% right now, so I'm turning the corner). I've been working on my minor league review, which I heard Rany just did his - so good timing! (Side note: I don't read Rany any more so I can try to formulate original thoughts and ideas, but I hear from others on his work. I thought it would be tough not reading him, but I'm pretty sure I know exactly what he is writing about.) I hope to have my review for you soon (its actually a little promising), but in the meantime I asked one of our best posters to write a guest post to help me out during my hectic schedule right now. He is busy kicking off another season of his Chiefs blog (which you should definitely check out) but he was gracious enough to help out. So, without any further ado, I present to you...Eggs uncut!
When it comes to Royals baseball (and KC sports in general), I like to think of myself as a realist. Most would probably call me a pessimist. I think the years upon years of disappointment and humiliation have robbed me of a certain hopeful enthusiasm I was once full of. What's left is a cold, calculating fan that, while still passionate, is definitely fed up. Now I seek solace in truth, rather than hope. I wish I could just switch my allegiance, but true fandom doesn't work like that. As much as they disgust me (and they do), I'm a Royals fan for life.
This season, for me, has been harder than the others. Partly because of the now-famous 18-11 start and all the false optimism it engendered, but thats not the only reason (or even the main one). What's been far worse, for me, is what this season has taught us about Dayton Moore, the man we all hoped so desperately would lead us back to the promised land. We've learned a lot about Moore this season, and none of it has been good. We've learned that not only does he not use sabermetrics, he doesn't even understand them. He refuses to. This realization has been less painful for some of us (me) than others (CABG), but I think we can all agree by now that Moore has placed himself squarely behind the 8-ball. He's put together the worst team in the league, and he honestly has no idea why. His trades have backfired, his free agent signings have been a colossal waste of money, and his approach has been proven to be totally outdated. Moore needs to adjust, or he'll take his seat next to Allard Baird and Herk Robinson in the "GMs who failed" section. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear an adjustment is imminent. Moore's responses to criticism have been increasingly bizarre, and it looks like he's just not really based in reality. To say Moore has a bunker mentality would be an understatement. He's starting to seem downright delusional.
But I'm not here to talk about that. I'm here to talk about the future. As bad as things have gotten, I still think our future is brighter than it was 3 years ago. I don't realistically think we can compete in 2010, but there are a few simple steps we can take that can at least bring us back towards respectability. If we play this right, Royals baseball can be relevant again in 2011. But thats two years away. What can we do now? What steps should be taken this offseason?
1) Get rid of Jose Guillen by any means necessary- The rest of these steps aren't in any particular order, but I put this one first because its by far the most important. Guillen must go. He's arguably the worst every-day player in the major leagues*, and makes more money than anyone else on our team. To say his contract is a waste of money would be the understatement of the century. But as important as it is for us to get out from under that contract, its more important that we get Guillen off our team. He can't get on base, he's losing power by the day, and he is BY FAR the worst fielding outfielder in the major leagues. In other words, he's a total drain on our team, and we can't afford to have him in our lineup.
*Anyone care to guess who the other option here is? I'll give you a hint: the Royals recently traded for him.
So what do we do? Well, we should try to trade him obviously, but I kind of doubt anyone would be stupid enough to take him on. Getting actual value for him is totally out of the question. But maybe, just maybe, we could get some team to take Guillen off our hands if we agree to pay enough of his salary. We should start by offering to pay half, and if that doesn't work, we should offer to pay $9 million out of 12. Hell, if it comes down to it we should offer to pay whatever it takes. Even if we have to pay $11 million to see him off, thats better than keeping him and paying 12. And if we can't find anyone to take him on even under those conditions, we should release him. I know it would hurt to pay Guillen $12 million just to bounce, but not nearly as bad as it would hurt to pay him $12 million to stick around. Whatever it takes, Jose Guillen's days with the Royals need to end.
2) DO NOT re-sign Mike Jacobs- Those of us who panned the Jacobs trade when it happened literally couldn't have been more right. Jacobs, much like Guillen, can't get on base (at all) or play defense (at all). His modest power potential is a pretty hollow reward for that kind of ineptitude. Factor in our bullpen's struggles and Leo Nunez's success, and this trade has got to go down as one of the worst in team history. I've heard Dayton is considering bringing Jacobs back. I believe this would be the definition of not learning from your mistakes.
3) Release John Buck- Simply put, John Buck has been our catcher for long enough. This guy has been behind the plate for 6 years, and in that time has averaged a sub-.300 OBP and sub-.700 OPS. Even the Royals front office can no longer talk about Buck's "upside" with a straight face. Dayton Moore's decision to re-sign both Buck and Olivo to multimillion dollar deals after last season was mystifiying. Again, this is a mistake he must learn from. There's not a team in the majors that pays their backup catcher anywhere near the $3 million we pay Buck. A small-market team like us cannot afford to be spending stupid money like that. If given a choice between Olivo and Buck, I'll take Olivo. At least he can throw. That's one more thing than John Buck can do well.
But really, neither of these guys should be starting for us. Brayan Pena is a cheap option with a little bit of upside. That's exactly the type of player the Royals should be playing at catcher. Another option would be to bring in one of the Molina brothers. Both are free agents after this season, both are pretty good defensively, and neither should be very expensive.
4) Keep David DeJesus- I know some of you are fed up with DeJesus, but letting him go at this point just doesn't make a lot of sense. It would be like if your car had a flat tire and you tried to fix it by installing a new radiator. DeJesus isn't the problem. And its not like he's blocking any hot prospects. If we move DeJesus, who's going to take his place in our already barren outfield? Do you really trust Dayton Moore to find someone better? I certainly don't.
Also, I've read some statistical analyses of DeJesus that indicate he's actually an above average major league player. Apparently his defense in left field is among the best in the game. That's important in Kauffman stadium. In fact, I read something over at Royals Review a while back that said DeJesus, with defense factored in, was almost as valuable as Jason Bay (I believe this was in terms of win-shares). Obviously I'd rather have Bay, but the evidence was pretty convincing, and those guys at Royals Review definitely aren't homers.
5) Keep Mark Teahen- Teahen, like DeJesus, has been a little disappointing in his time with the Royals. He's not quite as good as we hoped he would be, but he still has value. We shouldn't be rushing to trade our few players that aren't terrible. In all likelihood our return on a Teahen trade would not be very high anyway, particulalry given Dayton Moore's track record with trades. We're much better off just keeping him. For one thing, I suspect Alex Gordon's days at third base may be numbered. If a decision is made to move Gordon, we'll need Teahen to step in and play third. In that regard, he's an excellent backup plan.
6) DO NOT move Alex Gordon to first base- Obviously we'd all like to see Alex Gordon succeed at third, but the fact is he may not. In 2008 his defensive numbers were straight-up bad. Among the worst in the league. This has led some to speculate that a George Brett-esque move to first is in Gordon's future. I think that would be a huge mistake. For one thing, Gordon's offensive numbers, while potentially good for a third baseman, don't play nearly as well at first. For that reason alone we should keep him at third until we're absolutely certain he can't play there. And if he can't, what then? Well, what about a move to right field? He doesn't have any experience there as far as I know, but neither did Mark Teahen. And Gordon, like Teahen, runs pretty well and has a third baseman's arm, so the tools are there. In my opinion we can't afford to move Gordon to a position already occupied by all our top propspects. Prospects such as....
7) Start Kila Kaihuee at first base- This one is a no-brainer. We're in desperate need of players who know how to work the strike zone, and Kaihuee has better plate discipline than anyone currently on our team. If it were up to me he would've been our first baseman this year. Yes, his power has dropped off a bit, but he could still probably hit as many homers as Mike Jacobs while having an OBP 100 points higher. Billy Butler may be improving in the field, but DH is where he belongs. Kile Kaihuee needs to be our first baseman in 2010. For some reason, the Royals don't seem to want that. I honestly have no idea why. Kila must not pass the infallible Dayton Moore eyeball test.
8) Trade Alberto Callaspo- This might sound crazy given that Callaspo is one of the few good hitters on our team, but hear me out. Callaspo is a good hitter, yes. He's also an absolutely terrible fielder. Possibly the worst second baseman in the majors. And not only that, he is SLOW. JoPo did a blog post a while back saying that Callaspo is BY FAR the worst player in the majors at going from first to third. He just can't do it. That's a pretty serious flaw, particularly for a singles hitter. At the trade deadlne my boi Rany floated the idea of trading Callaspo for Twins CF Carlos Gomez. I've become obsessed with the possibility. Gomez hasn't hit like people hoped, but his defense is maybe the best in the game and he's got great speed. Play him in center field and hit him ninth and I think he'd be a pretty valuable piece of the puzzle. As I mentioned earlier, outfield defense is important in Kauffman stadium. And when it comes to outfield defense, it doesn't get any better than Gomez.
Would the Twins agree to this deal? Who knows. Gomez was the centerpiece of the Santana deal, but that was when people thought he'd develop into the next Carlos Beltran. That no longer seems likely. Furthermore, the emergence of young outfielders Denard Span and Jason Kubel has pushed Gomez to the bench. Given the Twins' desperate need of a second baseman, a Gomez for Callaspo deal would seem to make sense for them. Given Mike Aviles and Jeff Bianchi's presence, selling high on Callaspo certainly makes sense for us.
9) Sign Marco Scutaro- Scutaro is 34, which isn't ideal. And he's having a pretty awesome year, so he's likely to command a nice chunk of change. This would probably be the only major free agent acquisition we could afford to make. It would be worth it. Scutaro has a .386 OBP and an OPS in the .820s. Not only that, he plays good defense. Factor in the occassional homerun and stolen base, and this guy is a pretty great player. Better than most give him credit for. In other words, exactly the type of player we should be looking for. The icing on the cake is we'd be stealing a good player from that douchebag J.P. Ricciardi. I hate that guy.
Make no mistake, we won't sign Scutaro. In Dayton moore's mind, the shortstop position is already locked up for the forseeable future. But these are things we should do, not things we will do. We will have Yuniesky Betancourt starting at shortstop in 2010. We should have him slinging nachos on the Pepsi Party Porch.
10) Don't trade any of our starting pitching- This is the one area of strength on our team, and that shouldn't be tampered with. We have a young, good rotation that should only get better with time. They deserve that chance. Maybe you trade Gil Meche once Aaron Crowe is ready for the majors, but not before. And anyway, I want Dayton Moore making less trades, not more (Moore?). He may be good at scouting, but when it comes to actual major league players he's completely out of his element. And while players like Brian Bannister and Gil Meche may not be great, they're certainly better than what we'd get in return.
OK gang, so thats my list. I'm not optimistic the Royals will see things the way I do (they seldom do), but I'm fairly certain these moves would make us a much better team than we are now. Of course, according to Dayton Moore he already put together a good team this year. Darn those injuries!
Exit Question from DP: What are your thoughts on Eggs off-season decisions?
Hey Hatt, where we at?- offensive line edition
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Yeah, Dayton's bizarre behavior has got me down. I thought for sure we'd be a bit more like the Twins and As than the Nats by this time.
I'd love to hear Bannister and Moore argue about statistical analysis. Bannister should be our coach.
Eggs,
I am not nearly as optimistic as you are. I basically have lost all faith in the royals and while I am still a fan I relish in the fact that I want them to lose and lose terribly. Maybe this is the only way Hillman gets canned, I hate him so much I certainly do not want him to succeed on any level. I also think next year will be worse than this year, and potentially way worse.
What about the chances of us getting to pick this Bryce Harper kid. He is supposed to be the Steven Strasburg of position players.
I have been and am still ready to see Guillen hit the road; realistically, I don't see a way of parting before next year. Idealy he's a DH and has a year like last year. And yes, I'm worried too that Jacobs is coming back as well.
Crowe not signing is a joke. He's to blame as well as the Royals for not knowing that he would be ready to waste two years of development. I just don't see how this lost time can be a positive.
I do believe that the farm is in better shape than it was three years ago. Rany pointed out that Wilmington is traditionally tough on hitters and that Hosmer and Moustakas, albeit behind others at this time, are still young. Beltran hit .229 there two years before becoming ROY. We've discussed the pitching prospects too, which are both solid and far away.
My "belief" in what is going on has taken a major hit this year. Many things already alluded to as well as simply bad baseball are not things you see from teams looking to compete in the next couple of years. The real sign of progress will be when prospects will be talked about less and asked to contribute to a team, not save a franchise.
Goodnight
Johnny - Just to clarify, we are not done with Crowe. Because he has no college eligibility left, he has until one week before next year's deadline. Word is that he and his agent were waiting for all the deals to go down last night, and now they can increase their leverage by pointing out guys who signed over slot at the last minute. Baseball won't let guys sign over slot until the last day so that other agents can't use them as bargaining. Pretty sly there, Bud. Coincidence that the 14 1st round picks announced before yesterday were all at or below slot? Then magically everyone above slot is signed the last day...
I had no idea thats how that worked. Interesting. I'd actually like to see the Royals play hardball with this kid. They've got all the leverage, and if he agrees to sit out another year he's too much of a dipshit to succeed anyway.
Also, and I think this goes without saying, I'll be rooting for the Royals to lose every game from here on out. Losses are much, much more important to the future of this franchise right now than wins, for several reasons. The last thing we need is another september mirage for our douchebag front office to point to. I check the box score every night and actually get pissed when they win. Thankfully, that isn't often.
Hilarious poll option about Bloomquist, by the way. Can you imagine how much Buddy Bell would've loved him?
Yes, I should have clarified that I meant even if he signs today, it's still nearly two complete years of pro ball down the drain.
He'd be in the majors now if he had signed last year and he could be pushing the envelope for a callup this year if he had signed early. He's not going to get the money he wanted and the Hendricks brothers are killing this guy.
Sign the contract and pitch.
I clearly believe this organization is struggling. In fact, that's blatantly obvious. However, I don't believe Trey Hillman is at fault. Is he a good MLB manager right now? No. But, he can become one...and firing him is not the answer. To blame Trey over Dayton is absolutely ridiculous. Sure, Hillman now uses Soria for two inning saves, but none of us know what's going on within the clubhouse. Soria may have went to Trey and said hey...I absolutely feel great, I'm good to go two innings.
In addition, I find many more positives in this team than others do. I think we have pretty good starting pitching, an excellent DH for next year in Billy Butler, a good 3B in Mark Teahen for next year, a good CF in Anderson, and with a few key signings we can compete next season. Let's say we go out and sign Polanco and Crawford next year (prob. wont happen, but you never know!).
Crawford (CF)
Polanco
Butler
Kiahuehue
Teahen
DeJesus (RF)
Olivo
Anderson (LF)
Betancourt
*See where Gordon is next April...but he better earn the job in Spring Training, opposed to getting it handed to him.
Granted, we prob. won't get those guys...but, my point is that we arent that far off!!
PS- I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD RIGHT NOW....BRYCE HARPER WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING IN THE MLB.
Let me clarify...Bryce will get a shot in the MLB, but will never make an All Star Game, and will never hit .300.
So, I guess he could play okay..but, I think he's way overhyped! He's a batting practice phenom who will struggle to hit the nasty stuff.
CABG, while I appreciate your consistent fandom (and god knows we all need constant pick-me-ups when dealing with another grueling Royals season) I must go out on a limb and guarantee that the Royals will never make the playoffs with a member of the Glass family leading this franchise.
Good guest analysis, but it is hard to see the reason for optimism -- maybe decent pitching and a division that figures to be weak over the next several years.
Moore is a strange guy. He can't be dumb, but he has made some of the most obviously dumb moves I have ever seen a GM make. Guillen at 3 years/$36 million when I heard the most he would have got somewhere else was one year at about $8 million; trading for Jacobs when the Marlins probably would have non-tendered him; signing Farnsworth for $9 million when there probably was little interest in him; trading for Yuni when, among other problems, the Mariners were obviously dying to unload him (a Guillen type situation); keeping both Buck and Olivo. These were not moves that could have gone either way -- they were absurd from the start.
So, Moore needs to be very lucky with some minor leaguers moving up and becoming stars, as well as Gordon hitting it big.
I think there is no chance Jacobs is brought back, although he is a fun guy to watch hit and he occasionally produces a huge home run - a good team could afford to live with his pitiful OBP and get the benefit of 25 to 35 home runs.
On Guillen, I can't imagine any team taking him, so the Royals will (and probably should) give him one more chance next year and release him after a month or so if lightening does not strike or if he shows up out of shape again.
Callaspo for Gomez is the kind of trade the Royals should make. Gomez probably will never make it big, and he didn't even hit in the minors, but he is only 23 and the type of guy the Royals should roll the dice on. Callaspo can hit, but it seems like he is always making mistakes at second base, many of which are not errors. I would go back to Teahan. Heck, I would put Teahan at shortstop in place of Yuni. If we have a weak defensive shortstop, we might as well put in someone who can hit well for a shortstop.
I don't think Glass has much of anything to do with the disaster of this season. Even if he did, we all should be grateful to him because, if it was not for Glass, the Royals would no longer be in KC.
http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=377&f=32267
For anyone who wants to listen to the nerdiest stat conversation I have ever heard. Listen to Brian Bannister and Soren Petro talk about how stats and using them to play to your strenghts is absolutely crucial to success in the game today.
CABG this is totally not for you, just keep being willfully ignorant to all of the overwhelming information that exists on this subject.
I've always heard that argument about Glass "keeping" the Royals in KC. Can anyone explain to me exactly how he saved the team from leaving? I'm not saying it's wrong but I've never heard the proof. I did hear a rumor that he was involved with the board of directors and possibly drove the price down in order to purchase the team. Can anyone confirm or deny? Are these just conspiracy theories?
Kneedlez,
God knows CABG and I have had our scrapes, but the guy did go out and buy a Bill James book and read it cover to cover. That shows a pretty respectable willingness to learn in my opinion, especially given that he's spent his whole life in the "baseball guy" camp.
However, CABG, whats the big idea here? Normally you post as much as the rest of this site combined and then the second I do a guest post you become a god-damned mute? Where's the love, man?
Also, I think we may need to adjust our opinions a tad with regards to who deserves the lion's share of blame for this disaster of a season. Trey Hillman sucks, and he's an Bible-toting idiot, and he's definitely not a good manager, but he is by no means our biggest problem. If we had good players they could win in spite of Hillman.
Ditto for David Glass. Hey, we all know I hate Glass, but this ain't on him either, accept insofar as it was him who hired the man really responsible for our current misery. Glass upped payroll and spent bank on draft picks 2 years in a row. He's still a piss-poor owner (I'll get to that in my next comment), but definitely not tops on my hit-list.
That honor belongs to Dayton Moore. He is unquestionably public enemy number one in my book. He put this team together. It's been 3 years, he's brought in "his" guys, he's spent a lot of money on them, and they're almost all laughably bad. Like, "no other team wants these guys" bad. And the worst part is, everyone knew that but him. He just doesn't get it, and he's determined to keep on not getting it. We WILL NOT be good until Moore either adjusts, or is fired. Much more likely the latter. This guy is unlike anything I've ever seen. Shit man, think about where we'd be without Zach Greinke and Billy Butler. In other words, the best players on our team were inherited from Allard Baird! Think about that. It's been 3 fucking years.
that "accept" should be "except". Please ACCEPT my apologies.
Oh yeah and one more thing:
trust the process.
Eggs,
I agree Hillman is not the problem, I think a commity of Seitzer, McClure, and John Gibbons could probably do a better job combined then Hillman has, but I certainly don't blame him. I am pretty sure John Gibbons has more major league managing experience then Hillman, it must make his blood boil to listen to that autistic gorilla make decisions.
As for CABG, I just needed one last shot across his bow before this season is totally over, and the Bannister interview is the most scathing criticism I have for "baseball guys". If I was Dayton Moore I would be terrified but some of things Bannister said, basically his fourth starting pitcher is more qualified to do his job as well as be the pitching coach then he is.
I think Moore will change because he is not a fool, and he probably is smart (although I have not heard him speak much to have an informed opinion). He HAS to change to keep his job and, to some extent, he he has to learn from his mistakes, just like the rest of us. However, he is in a box, because how does he actually do anything that shows he has changed? The dead weight on the team is not trade bait; trading the valuable players is unlikely to improve the team (although trading Butler for high level talent would be an interesting move). He probably will not have additional money to spend on payroll. So he has to rely upon minor league talent advancing and succeeding, or making good trades with the minor league talent. Since that is the case, unless he gets lucky, he is probably cooked. Hillman probably hangs on into next year and, unless things turn around, Moore probably gets two more years.
As to Glass saving the Royals for Kansas City, I don't have first hand knowledge and, under any circumstances, it is speculative, but I believe it is true. The Royals were on the market for a long time after Kaufman's death and sales prospects were hamstrung by restrictions on the sale under the Kaufman will (including, I believe, that the purchaser could not profit from the resale of the club). As a result, there were not serious big money buyers and the under financed Miles Prentice arrived as the most likely prospective purchaser. Glass torpedoed Prentice when he sought approval from the owners of the other teams and, when a serious buyer still did not step up, Glass bought the team (not sure if there was a deadline for a KC owner to step forward, but I think there was). In any event, Glass stepped in and committed to keep the team in KC, in part apparently because of his fond relationship with Mr. Kaufman and wanting to do Kaufman's wishes. If Glass did not step up, I think the team would be gone. Either it would have been sold to an out of town interest or to someone like Prentice who was underfinanced and would have needed to move the team to greener pastures. Instead, Glass stepped in and saved the team, even though he will not be able to make a profit on the resale of the team down the road. As a result, he probably takes more profit out of the team than he would otherwise, that is justified and a small price to pay for keeping our team. As bad as the Royals have been, can you imagine how much worse it would be for Royals fans and for KC if we lost the team?
Eggs,
I'm back..I'm back. Sorry, I've been traveling my ass off. Anyways, I appreciate the comments.
Kneedlez,
I'm glad you got your shot in. I think we both know that a happy medium is the best way to go. I simply don't think stats will ever be more prominent than the 'eye'.
Let me interupt myself real quick...I'm currently watching Bruce Chen and Billy Butler take penalty kicks at a Wizards practice. Holy shit. Now, I've seen Hochevar kicking field goals and Chen/Butler taking PK's. It's over. I'm done writing...
AS THE SEASON COMES TO A CLOSE....I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH THIS:
I had a great time discussing, and mostly arguging baseball with everybody. My stubborness is undoubtedly real, and yes...I do think I'm always right. The truth is...I know a lot about baseball, but it does NOT mean I'm right. It's simply something I believe. Football...is a different story. I actually do know I'm right about a lot of football stuff, but I think coaching at Tennessee gives me much more credit than playing baesball at Missouri State.
Anyways, it's been fun. Eggs...great post.
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